Tuesday, February 17, 2009

Richard Silverstein Abuses His "Other Family"


from: “Stop Lieberman, Sign the Petition”

Taming Korach says:
February 16, 2009 at 6:45 PM
our Israeli brothers and sisters
So all of sudden we are family,Richard?
It is unlikely that Lieberman will be excluded. He is secular and Ashkenazi, just like you-why all of the fuss?

Richard Silverstein says:
February 16, 2009 at 8:39 PM
So all of sudden we are family,Richard?
What narische snark. I’ve always called myself a progressive Zionist. That means that I consider Israel part of the Jewish (hence, my) family. Rather, it is rightists who disown me as legitimately Jewish. So you’ve got it precisely wrong as usual.

Taming Korach says:
February 17, 2009 at 8:17 AM
What narische snark.
I don’t speak German on principle.
I’ve always called myself a progressive Zionist.
What are you progressing into exactly? Most of my Jewish friends in the USA are progressing into Christians.
part of the Jewish (hence, my) family.
Do you attack your family like you do Israel? If you did the authorities would take custody of your kids away from you!

B.BarNavi says:
February 17, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Perhaps it’ll satisfy those Palestinians who would rather live in Dixie than the Yankee North, but you know this’ll spell the end of Israel, right?
I’d rather Israel’s racism be behind a veneer that have its ugliness out in the open. Call me crazy, but I think this is a case where racism under wraps is easier addressed than open racism. At least there won’t be open retaliation in the former.

Taming Korach says:
February 17, 2009 at 8:17 AM
What narische snark.
I don’t speak German on principle.

I’ve always called myself a progressive Zionist.

What are you progressing into exactly? Most of my Jewish friends in the USA are progressing into Christians.
part of the Jewish (hence, my) family.
Do you attack your family like you do Israel? If you did the authorities would take custody of your kids away from you!

Richard Silverstein says:
February 17, 2009 at 5:08 PM
I don’t speak German on principle.
It’s Yiddish you dolt. Or do you object to Yiddish on principle because it’s associated with the Jewish Diaspora.

Most of my Jewish friends in the USA are progressing into Christians.

Then you’re hangin’ out with the wrong crowd.  Judaism is doing quite well in the circles I frequent.
Do you attack your family like you do Israel?  If you did the authorities would take custody of your kids away from you!
Thank God my children have never attempted a targeted assassination on any of their schoolmates or friends.  If they did, I’d be almost as harsh with them as I am with Israel.

B.BarNavi says:
February 17, 2009 at 8:46 PM
*sigh*… as long as I’m identified by “the other”, or to use a brasher term, “der goyim”, as a Jew. I’m going to identify as a Jew, with all other Jews who not only self-identify as Jews, but also are identified by others as Jews.
Let’s not forget our common heritage steeped in the Word of God. Even those who don’t live up to that standard are in.
And THAT, my friend, is why I (and perhaps Richard though I don’t speak for him) feel that the Jews in Israel are family.

B.BarNavi says:
February 17, 2009 at 8:53 PM
And furthermore, best friends don’t allow best friends to engage in crime and other unethical lifestyles. Family? All the more so.
All the more reason that we criticize WITHIN the family. Now tell me – just because I am identified as a Jew, do you blame ME for the crimes of Israel?
Are you saying that we can exist as individuals and choose to be Jewish or whatever… and yet “da Jooz” can ONLY exist in some single-minded amorphous collective free of self-criticism?

Taming Korach says:
February 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM
@Richard
Thank God my children have never attempted a targeted assassination
Unfortunately some Arabs have done many targeted murders of Israelis, which you never describe (ever).

Richard Silverstein says:
February 18, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Just for the sake of my readers, NILI is also CHeller & numerous other sockpuppets here, all of whom belong to a smearmonger named Justin White, whose new sockpuppets are now banned.

Taming Korach says:
February 17, 2009 at 10:27 PM
@B.BarNavi
Call me crazy,
How about ignorant? Have you ever been to Israel B.BarNavi?
best friends don’t allow best friends to engage in crime and other unethical lifestyles.
The best friends thing sounds like the Brady Bunch, not Judaism. Speaking of Judaism-breaking shabbat, kashrut, and stealing (Madoff) is also unethical.  Tell that to your buddies over there! When will you understand that Israel has a right to defend itself?  Where were you humanists in the USA (I assume) when Jews were being slaughtered in Europe? Nowhere to be found.
some single-minded amorphous collective free of self-criticism?
Kind of like Jews in hutz l-aretz? Assimilation? (nope) Jewish illiteracy? (nope) Talking about hypocrisy! (yep)
Sharansky is out of the picture because he never really blended into the scene here. He served his role in the Russian aliyah.  He definitely didn’t help Israel by helping to bring 500,000-700,000 non-Jews into Israel, some of whom are skinheads.  Now he is living with the wealthy Anglos in Katamon, not with “downtrodden Russians.”

B.BarNavi says:
February 18, 2009 at 8:16 AM
BTW, I HAVE been to E”Y thankyouverymuch. Not long enough, but I can’t afford to return anytime soon.
Speaking of Judaism-breaking shabbat, kashrut, and stealing (Madoff) is also unethical. Tell that to your buddies over there!
… except I HAVE? The actions of Madoff are on proportion with the Olmertian corruption in Israel, but Shabbat and kashrut are of personal choice. That I choose to keep Shabbat and kosher doesn’t affect my neighbors. Besides, this tu quoque argument is useless. The presence of Jewish criminals in Hu”L doesn’t mitigate the severity of Jewish criminals in E”Y.
And I can’t be responsible for American blindness to the Holocaust in the 30s and 40s…. BECAUSE I HAD YET TO BE BORN FOR ANOTHER FORTY YEARS. You are asking me to be responsible for things that I had no control over.

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